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Thanks!

Hehe ... How bout if hypothetically he's the boss boss? More senior than the senior company officer ...

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in the Uk , our fire depts vehicles all carry water, they would have applied water to that fire within 5 minutes of arrival, and not faff about messing around with hoses, while the building burns down. There could have been person inside that building? US fire depts need to get vehicles with water on board.

@@martinedwards7360 We also have water onboard in the Netherlands. Normally 2 firefighters will start putting water on the fire as soon as possible whilst 2 others prepare the hoses and fire hydrants to take water in if necessary.

This unit has 500 gallons of water in an onboard tank. Uncertain if they used any of it on the fire or waited for hydrant water.

@@joop1991 Most American fire pumping apparatus have between 500 and 1000 gallons in their tanks. My agency have 750 each. The fireground tactics are up to their agencies policies and commanders. We would pull hose and hit the fire immediately and use the water we have to try to knock it down....if we empty the tank before we can establish a water supply, so be it. We would expect to at least be able to knock it down enough to be safe to make an entry. But each agency, their training and capabilities are different.

There's no basement, and no apartments above which was just used for storage on the 2nd division, 3rd. was empty.

That line came in from the rear, and one to the 3rd division too.

You had me right up to the point where you say they must've been shamokin some good weed.

Surely because a paid department would NEVER perform like this department who receives NOTHING in return for their service. I have seen paid departments in other cities have bad days like this, so it can happen to ANYONE.

@@FDNY8231 Agree, especially some East Coast departments. Pretty dysfunctional.

Never too old or serving too long to learn something and from our mistakes.

Can't argue with that ...

Since the investigation into the fire is ongoing the building is just secured and boarded up with plywood, etc so no access is allowed till they determine what will be done with it. They could demolish the building without too much problems I believe, but I'm hoping they'll save it and restore it. Thanks for the comments.

There was 500 gallons of water in a tank on this rig.

this is not a typical response.. a lot of hesitation and confusion

That fire looks like it was really Shamokin!

@@FDNY8231500 gallons should last some time. At least long enough to establish a water supply from a hydrant.

@@azschalter00 gallons will be gone in a couple minutes

First few minutes always are ...

herdin' cats.

This video is 3 hours away from NY to the West.

I'm assuming YOU would know when you can't even spell UNACCEPTABLE ... Even with today's spell checkers ... Way to go!

​@@FDNY8231 One look at the scene and it's clear it's a surround and drown, no one needs to go in there. I was with a Volunteer Department and it was a long time until we had a building spitting fire out like that. For a lot of guys it's wild

They DID tag a hydrant and were hooking it up immediately. It wasn't on my video, but it was on another video of this fire.

@@FDNY8231 Yeah I just saw the other video. I'm gonna change the comment.

@@FDNY8231 👍🏻

For sure!

You've obviously never heard of RECEO. Rescue, Exposures, Containment, Extinguish, Overhaul. Yes the water in the premises may do some damage, but the fire is going to destroy it totally as well as the structures surrounding it.

Volunteer profesionales!

@@FDNY8231не видно тут профессионалов ни одного первая машина не могла развернуть личный состав для тушению,итог горит 3этаж

@@user-ve8kj4tm4q Пожар так и не вышел за пределы первого этажа. 2-й и 3-й этажи пострадали от дыма и воды, но не от огня.

@@FDNY8231 Sowas wie ein Schnellangriff kennt ihr anscheinend nicht, führen diese Fahrzeuge kein eigenes Wasser mit ?

@@sveagle Das tue ich mit Sicherheit, und ja, diese Motoren sind mit 500-Gallonen-Wassertanks ausgestattet. Ich weiß nicht, ob sie das Wasser in ihrem Tank verwendet oder auf das Hydrantenwasser gewartet haben.

It was a UA-cam re-tool ... So not real. It was what they called a shakey video tool to supposedly rework the video to lessen shakeyness. The result was this so I thought it was cool and shared it with all of you. Thanks for watching.

Amen!

If there had been a person entrapped in there they would have been beyond rescue from the beginning as the fire was of this magnitude already prior to the FD arrival. As for training I agree. There are more ways to continue to learn from the mistakes we make on the fireground.

Большинство наших двигателей имеют бак на 500 галлонов воды в корпусе.

Dziękuję

Greetings!

Yep!

My advise is to take out ALL batteries, and start over from scratch. This will usually allow the unit to reset. Try that!

Thank You ... Enjoy flying!

More flame than schmoke lol

Because the paid departments NEVER have a bad day? I beg to differ with you. I watched a Jersey City, NJ 3rd Alarm video where they got ROASTED for issues that make THIS video look like child's play. Just because you get paid to do the job doesn't change the nature of the job. At least it hasn't in the 48 years I've been doing it.

@@FDNY8231you’ve worked on Intervale Ave for 48 years?

Best guess from my years of vast experience. About 1/2 block or more. Do we tend to figure that in when responding in? NO! We always want to be as close as is safe enough to get.

votre appareil photo I thank you very much for this humility and for this answer...but I also have 23 years of experience in the same field. The method of tactical response must be applied after the general history of operations. It begins with identifying the position of the trucks in the intervention for the safety of the interveners and the trucks

Can't argue with that ....

Same here in Australia, depending on the appliance we have between 2000-4000 liters of water for initial attack whilst the pumpie and any spare crew start to get water setup from a stand pipe, hydrant etc. If we don't have water onto a job with 60 seconds of the truck stopping we're having an extremely bad day.

I believe it goes right into the tank.

Для начала не было особого смысла туда заходить, поскольку там никого не было.

Glad you enjoyed it

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@@FDNY8231 NO Problem

Good deal! Glad it works for ya.

Deck gun was out of service ....

Couldn't agree more!

Unfortunately, the "keyboard experts" are everywhere on social media.

Maybe 27 years on fdny ladder u learn a little

THAT AERIAL DID CRAP FOR THE FIRST 5 MINUTES GETTING IT READY FOR A LADDER PIPE WHEN IT COULD HAVE PUT SOMEONE ON THE ROOF RIGHT AWAY TO VENT THE SCUTTLE HATCHES AND/OR BULKHEAD TO RELIEVE THE PENT UP HEAT ON THE FLOORS ABOVE. iT ALSO COULD HAVE PUT SOMEONE ON THE 3RD FLOOR TO DO A PRIMARY SEARCH FOR POSSIBLE VICTIMS. AND TO VENT AS WELL. aS SOON AS THEFOIRST FLOOR WAS KNOCKED DOWN, THAT 2ND LINE SHOULD HAVE GONE UP TO THE 2ND FLOOR IN CASE THERE WAS EXTENSION THROUGH THE CEILING OR IN THE WALLS.

@@K7008B The bulkhead doors for upper floor entry are in the rear (NO entry from the roof) so the ladder to the roof would've done nothing. They opened those doors and vented from the rear. There was NO ONE in the building at the time of the fire. The first floor was business occupied, and after reporting the fire all exited. The 2nd floor was storage. Access WITH handlines was made to the 2nd AND 3rd floors from the rear of the building in case there was extension through the ceilings or in the walls.

And you can do better from your armchair?

What peoples money? These firefighters get ZERO dollars to do this job, AND get no respect from your comments either.

not a arm chair,anybody that knows anything can see they suck ,it is what it is

@@bill-nj6fc SO everyone on the street just automatically KNOWS how well or not so well how a fire dept performs? Is it like common knowledge? Unlike us FF the average Joe has NO CLUE how or what happens at a fire scene. I'll grant you 7 minutes for a knockdown that MAYBE should've taken TWO is kinda obvious, but mainly to US who actually DO the job. When you look at this and say "well they should've done this or that, etc" while not even being there and relying on video. THAT'S what is armchair quarterbacking. Every dept/company can have a bad day it happens to the best of us. I have seen WAY worse! To say they suck when they do it for love of community, and to help people is just a slap in the face for the whole profession. Honestly training more and learning from our mistakes is the way it should be.

@@FDNY8231

Это добровольцы из местных. В америке много таких расчетов в малых населенных пунктах. Они не получают за это деньги. Это хорошо экипированные местные жители, которые съезжаются по сообщению о пожаре.

Da

@@user-jv5nk7ht6j Интересная система безопасности, больше похожа на инициативу местного населения.

Добровольцы должны быть обучены, опасное производство. В РФ на горных предприятиях есть дружины ВГС это добровольная группа состоит только из квалифицированный специалистов, ВГСЧ это другое.

@@user-de6po1wp4k Мы также должны пройти обучение по государственному минимуму.

Absolutely .... Hard to keep up.

The first thing all these negative commenters should be doing is saying thank you to the firefighters instead for their service and their hard work that they do and if they want to show how they can do it better feel free to upload a video showing them how to do it better and tell them keep their mouth shut!

@@LJT7907

You must be a moron to think that's an interior attack.

you mean literally walking into the fire when there's no one to rescue?

Like a paid department would've (went in) just because they're better? Nah ... Much to risk when there's much to lose ... No one in there to get out ... Hit it from the exterior then go in if required to. I'm in favor of not letting our guys do this job for FREE, would you be willing to pay a whole lot more in taxes to make that happen?

I see where you get your knowledge from ... Not cool!

It was an old firehouse which was sold after consolidation of two companies and turned in a winery/restaurant.

Just barely before I arrived ...

@@FDNY8231 still took more than 2 minutes anyway. That's long, like really long

Definitely long. These guys need to use this video for training purposes.

@@HerpDerpNV facts!

Thanks

You are right the women WILL hate it, and you sir are incorrect.

Fire fighting is not a place for you know who.

Deck gun was out of service ... IMO less than 7 minutes for a knockdown is not bad. Fire was held to building of origin. If their deck gun had been in service there would have been very little fire for me to video as it would've been knocked so in that your are correct.

Thank You for your comments.

Just incase it is not known? These small Appalachian PA cities ALL have Volunteer Fire Depts that really are not like a Union 24-hour staffed one. They do have to go thru training in PA as Union Dept Fire personal. I actually was in one of the Fire Stations as they have BARS in them as Clubs. When this call went out. The Trucks do not go out instantly as some Fire-people need to arrive and suit up. It would appear still this fire had a good start and once got air was fully engulfed. Irony has it it was a closed fire-station turned into a Wine-bar. I think the small city and surrounding township has 6-All volunteer stations left. 5 still have a Bar that is a Club one has to be a member, just not a fireman. I was in the one Fire station that had a Call to go just blocks away. Still though some were in the firehouse and bar at the time. Not sure if it had to wait a bit for more at first to arrive? Other stations from nearby communities and in-city were called also as ALL-Volunteer County-wide and most of Appalachia smaller cities, towns and villages.